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tetration exp(z)-1+k - sheldonison - 01/27/2015 where k is a small perturbation constant in the neighborhood of zero, what if we develop the superfunction of I plan on developing these ideas over the next several weeks or months ... feel free to contribute or critique. In particular, for a value of k, can we develop the Fatou coordinate/Abel function, and the k=0 corresponds to eta, which is the singularity point since zero is z fixed point. The idea is that each positive value of k corresponds directly to tetration for some real base greater than eta. One idea is that also, there is some similar function to f(x), which has the same x^2 multiplier, and which has a well defined superfunction which can be expressed in a closed form in terms of tan(bx); see previous mathstack question. The goal would be to develop an Abel/Fatou function for arbitrary values of k... Here is a graph of the superexponential corresponding to k=0.1, from -5 to 7. The inflection point is always about halfway between 0 and 1, and the superexponential is developed at z=0. k=0.1 corresponds to tetration b=1.501657. Where f(0)=0, this corresponds to where the [attachment=1185] Another idea is to develop an asymptotic formal series for Code: a0= 0 RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - MphLee - 01/27/2015 There is a reason (maybe is a standard) behind the use of the letter "o" in RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - sheldonison - 01/27/2015 (01/27/2015, 11:18 AM)MphLee Wrote: There is a reason (maybe is a standard) behind the use of the letter "o" inThanks; I should have been using "\circ n" and not "on". RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - tommy1729 - 01/30/2015 In your example you say f(0)=0 but f(0)=0,1. So no fixpoint ! Regards Tommy1729 RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - sheldonison - 01/31/2015 (01/27/2015, 12:28 AM)sheldonison Wrote: where k is a small perturbation constant in the neighborhood of zero... First a quick note about what's interesting about this alternative form for tetration, for First off, if So for k>0 So, this particular point on the tetration curve is the place where the linear approximation piecemeal approximation works best, since a linear approximation between zero and one gives rise to a continuous and once differentiable approximation for the superfunction. The inflection point for s(z) will occur approximately midway between zero and one. This is exactly equivalent to the piecemeal approximation for tetration base(e), where sexp(z)=1+z, between -1 and 0, which is then extended... So I've always found this part of the Tetration curve which contains the inflection point fascinating. Since real Tetration for bases>exp(1/e) has complex fixed points, perhaps this section of the sexp(z) curve is the part of the curve from which we can build up an analytic tetration function, for small positive values of k. So all of that was background material to get ready for the next post; the next post will give the exact equations for a closed form superfunction which approaches is a lot like working with RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - tommy1729 - 01/31/2015 Your third equation has typo's. I know what u intended. Regards Tommy1729 "Never underestimate THE master" Mick RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - sheldonison - 02/01/2015 (01/31/2015, 02:45 AM)sheldonison Wrote: ....So all of that was background material to get ready for the next post; the next post will give the exact equations for a closed form superfunction which approaches The closed form solution for the tangent superfunction for the fixed points are: the tangent superfunction is: It is interesting to compare the graph of the tangent superfunction for k=0.1, shown in red, with the graph of supexponential for k=0.1 where [attachment=1186] One reason for this is that the two functions match until the z^3 term, where they differ by The two functions have different periodicities, and fixed points, but those are also close. For the superexponential, the fixed points are Another interesting experiment to try is to plug in k=1, and generate the superfunction at z=1, and compare the tangent superfunction to tetration, sexp(z). The tangent superfunction provides an excellent piecemeal definition of tetration, and when it replaces the linear approximation, the resulting sexp(z) approximation has a continuous first and second derivative. This works for all tetration bases. RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - tommy1729 - 02/01/2015 (01/31/2015, 02:45 AM)sheldonison Wrote: [quote='sheldonison' pid='7609' dateline='1422314910']Despite the edit this equation is still wrong. Look , your "z" is on the LHS but not on the RHS. Quote: This is also wrong. sexp'(x+1) = sexp(x+1) sexp'(x). If you say f ' (x) = f ' (x+1) then basicly you say f ' (x) is periodic. Quote:So, this particular point on the tetration curve is the place where the linear approximation piecemeal approximation works best, since Considering these mistakes or miscommunications I have trouble following and as a reader am not seduced to do so. Maybe Im harsch but if you ever want to write a paper you will loose the intrest of people after page 1 by these things , if it even gets accepted. As for my opinion , well , considering what I wrote its clear. Also the idea or post seems unfinished and is therefore hard to Judge. Nothing new under the sun till now ? regards tommy1729 RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - tommy1729 - 02/01/2015 (02/01/2015, 05:57 AM)sheldonison Wrote: The tangent superfunction provides an excellent piecemeal definition of tetration, and when it replaces the linear approximation, the resulting sexp(z) approximation has a continuous first and second derivative. This works for all tetration bases. There are many nonlinear approximations that give a continuous first and second derivative. Why is this preferred ? Is there a uniqueness condition ? What is the advantage of this over just fitting the derivatives at the connection points ? ( Like A Robbins rediscovered ) regards tommy1729 RE: tetration exp(z)-1+k - sheldonison - 02/02/2015 (02/01/2015, 11:16 PM)tommy1729 Wrote:(02/01/2015, 05:57 AM)sheldonison Wrote: The tangent superfunction provides an excellent piecemeal definition of tetration, and when it replaces the linear approximation, the resulting sexp(z) approximation has a continuous first and second derivative. This works for all tetration bases. ok, fixed the typos. I'm still inventing this post on the fly; as I said in my first post, "I plan on developing these ideas over the next several weeks or months ..." The next step would be to look at the Abel function of |