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 Imaginary iterates of exponentiation jaydfox Long Time Fellow Posts: 440 Threads: 31 Joined: Aug 2007 09/12/2007, 07:13 AM (This post was last modified: 09/12/2007, 07:36 AM by jaydfox.) Okay, first of all, we need a name for performing the ith iteration of exponentiation. The 1st iteration is exponentiation, the -1st iteration is the logarithm. What's the ith iteration? Notice that the -ith iteration is the inverse of the ith iteration, but unlike the logarithm/exponentiation duality, imaginary iterations and their inverses are conjugates of each other for real numbers and real bases. For complex numbers and/or bases, we've picked one side or the other of the real line, so they might not necessarily be conjugates anymore (indeed, they probably aren't). While I'm on the subject of naming, I'm searching for a better verb for performing logarithms. To perform an exponentiation is to exponentiate. To perform a logarithm is to...??? To perform an exorcism (on an evil spirit) is to exorcize (the spirit). To give criticism (to a person or about a movie) is to criticize (the person or movie). I'm tempted at times to say that to perform a logarithm is to logarithe, but it doesn't quite roll off the tongue... Okay, back on subject. We need an ith iteration of exponentiation. We could start with a tetration solution and derive one, but I'd very much prefer to derive one from basic principles instead, and use it to derive and/or validate a tetration solution. First, some observations. The ith iteration of natural exponentiation of base e has two primary fixed points at $0.318131505... \pm 1.337235701...i$. If we momentarily call the ith iteration "imaginary exponentiation" and the -ith iteration "imaginary logarithm", the the upper fixed point is an attracting fixed point for imaginary exponentiation, and the lower fixed point is a repelling fixed point. For imaginary logarithms, the upper fixed point is repelling and the lower is attracting. I'm wondering if we could possibly experiment with exponentiation of complex bases to study this effect. I've experimented and found that complex bases (the few I played with) have both attracting and repelling fixed points of exponentiation, so that logarithms will tend to one and exponentiations will tend to the other, unless they happen to escape first (we could say that infinity is an attracting "fixed point" of exponentiation or logarithms in these cases...). I had been hoping to find a complex base with a fixed point at 1.337-0.318i, which is -i times the fixed point of natural exponentiation. However, I haven't found a way to find a base that has a specific fixed point. Even if I found such a base, I'm not sure what I'd do with it, other than play around with it and see if I get any inspiration... ~ Jay Daniel Fox « Next Oldest | Next Newest »

 Messages In This Thread Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by jaydfox - 09/12/2007, 07:13 AM RE: Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by andydude - 01/16/2008, 05:47 AM RE: Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 08:51 PM RE: Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by Ivars - 02/26/2008, 08:12 AM RE: Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by Ivars - 03/20/2008, 07:47 AM RE: Imaginary iterates of exponentiation - by bo198214 - 03/20/2008, 10:24 AM

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