Multi Dimensional PVN - Printable Version +- Tetration Forum (https://math.eretrandre.org/tetrationforum) +-- Forum: Tetration and Related Topics (https://math.eretrandre.org/tetrationforum/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Mathematical and General Discussion (https://math.eretrandre.org/tetrationforum/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Thread: Multi Dimensional PVN (/showthread.php?tid=797) Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 06/20/2013 [attachment=1010] Place Value Notation is the way we usually think about the natural numbers. It is possible to say a few things about multi dimensional Place Value Notation. I use the term "ordertype" and "folding pattern" from my previous papers (see "Nept and Nopt Structures") RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - tommy1729 - 06/22/2013 With respect , but I fail to see how this relates to tetration. RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 06/23/2013 (06/22/2013, 08:46 PM)tommy1729 Wrote: With respect , but I fail to see how this relates to tetration. in the section extending place value notation into pure noptiles there is a formula relating brace notation to 10^^9 (10 tetrated to 9) RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 06/25/2013 [attachment=1012] There is an obvious relationship between hyper4 and iterated brace notation with standard positional notation. The pdf has some examples that show how tetration (with positive integers) is related to SPN using the brace notation. RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 07/07/2013 thank goodness that you can check what should be obvious common sense on Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=googol interesting to contemplate about RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 07/07/2013 it is interesting to see what a googol looks like in base 2 wolfram alpha gives this information what about googolplex ? is that too complex to specify in base 2 ? RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - Gottfried - 07/08/2013 (07/07/2013, 01:32 PM)MikeSmith Wrote: it is interesting to see what a googol looks like in base 2 wolfram alpha gives this information what about googolplex ? is that too complex to specify in base 2 ? Hmm, did you know that in 2007 I proposed a summation for the series $a_{10}(2) = 2 - 10^2 + \text{googol} - \text{googolplex} + 10^{\text{googolplex}} - ... + ... \approx 0.336339355$ If you start meditating about this, well, I don't know what will happen... :-) Gottfried RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - sheldonison - 07/09/2013 (07/08/2013, 10:23 PM)Gottfried Wrote: .... Hmm, did you know that in 2007 I proposed a summation for the series $a_{10}(2) = 2 - 10^2 + \text{googol} - \text{googolplex} + 10^{\text{googolplex}} - ... + ... \approx 0.336339355$ .... GottfriedHow do you calculate the sum of this super-exponentially growing alternating series? RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - Gottfried - 07/10/2013 (07/09/2013, 09:40 PM)sheldonison Wrote: (07/08/2013, 10:23 PM)Gottfried Wrote: .... Hmm, did you know that in 2007 I proposed a summation for the series $a_{10}(2) = 2 - 10^2 + \text{googol} - \text{googolplex} + 10^{\text{googolplex}} - ... + ... \approx 0.336339355$ .... GottfriedHow do you calculate the sum of this super-exponentially growing alternating series?It is a conjecture because some convergence in the required matrix-formula was only observed for truncated matrices but I could not prove them. Here is the initial article of 2007 (which is much amateurish since I was just entering the field of tetration) http://go.helms-net.de/math/tetdocs/10_4_Powertower_article.pdf ; later I did a conversation in sci.math.research to improve the plausibility of the results, I've collected that discussion at http://go.helms-net.de/math/tetdocs/IterationSeriesSummation_1.htm . Gottfried RE: Multi Dimensional PVN - MikeSmith - 01/07/2014 This extra info follows on from the previous document. While the formulae aren’t so pretty to look at or check for accuracy, the result at the end of this additional document shows that the philospophical notion of regular type dimensional PVN does have an associated numerical expression result for ordertype[5]. Beyond this, the formulae expression would clearly be too cumbersome to bother with. However, the ordertype[5] result is interesting and quite understandable. Finally, the generalised expression is given for ordertype[5]. The prerequisites for understanding are contained in the previous documents about multi type dimensional PVN. Unfortunately, in the conversion from word document to pdf document some of the braces are no longer visible.